Michael Klaper, M.D., Vegan Diet Truths and Myths interviewed by Dr. Nick Delgado


Michael: The most important principles of
diet as far as I’m concerned is to keep a steady stream of whole plant foods flowing
through your digestive system and thus through your bloodstream and thus through your tissues
day after day, week after week, month after month, bathing your tissues in all the wonderful
phytonutrients and antioxidants inherent in plant foods, and also supplying food stream
that is free of oxidized animal proteins, many of the free radicals that come from processed
foods, excessive sugars, hydrogenated oils and all the chemical additives, the flavorings,
colorings, preservatives, stabilizers, all the chemical soup in modern cuisine to free
your tissues of that toxic load and just bathe your tissues in a healing river of phytonutrients
day after day. And it’s hard to see how disease is going
to get a hold of your body in that way. And I think it’s the best, most powerful modality
for turning disease around, so whole food, plant-based diet. It’s a very long-winded answer but one short
phrase. I was a young general practitioner in British
Columbia in the early ’70s. And because I had adapted a plant-based diet
people who were raising their own children and themselves on plant-based diet would seek
me out. And I seem to be the team doctor for the vegans. And many of these young women would be pregnant. And because I was good at delivering babies
and had training in obstetrics I followed them along and had the pleasure of delivering
many of these babies. I did quite a few deliveries at home in the
1970s. I wouldn’t do that today. And when it came time for me to put the baby
in the mother’s arms and the baby began to nurse the mom would ask, “How long can I nurse
for?” A year or two, absolutely. What do we feed the baby after that? And I had to give serious thought to what
is required to have a healthy infant nourished all the way through infancy and young adulthood. And so I began make a serious study of childhood
nutrition. And I realized that human beings have been
nourishing themselves on plant-based diet since time began. They are doing so by the millions around the
world today. And it’s certainly theoretically possible
to raise a child on completely plant-based foods. They need same calories and proteins and vitamins
and minerals that adults do. So I had to think how could we be able to
provide those nutrients in a form that a tiny baby stomach could handle. Of course babies are nursing on their mother’s
breast for the first couple of years. But when it was time to wean them because
they have such small stomachs you can’t load them up with a lot of fiber, you can’t give
them celery and apples and lettuce. You need to make every mouthful tell. So for small children you have to have very
nutrient dense foods, bean spreads and nut butters and hummus spreads and foods that
are based on grains and legumes and nuts and seeds, and put into a pleasant tasting form
that a child will enjoy. And lo and behold, the children grew up big
and strong. I’ve watched now three generations of these
infants that were raised in plant-based diets grow into bright, strong, intelligent young
adults who married other vegan men and women who then had a second generation of vegan
children who I’ve now seen grow up, and they are now having their own children, and they
too are growing up big and strong and healthy. So there’s no question in my mind that a whole
food, plant-based diet works during all stages of life. And with some smart planning it’s not that
hard to raise a vegan child. Omega-3 fatty acids are a real issue. There are several essential nutrients that
are in short supply in a completely plant-based diet. And omega-3 fatty acids, especially EPA and
DHA are the most problematic. And of late I’ve run into some rather disturbing
studies that show that long-term vegans indeed can have insufficient amount of these long-chain
fatty acids in their brain tissue and other tissues. And so I recommend that everyone who’s nourishing
themselves in a plant-based diet be really aggressive in eating the omega-3 containing
foods, dark green leafy vegetables, nuts, seeds, walnuts, flaxseeds, chia seeds, et
cetera. [0:05:09] But if there’s any question that they’re not
getting those types of whole food nutrients or they may have additional needs for them
or I see any signs of depression, dry skin, et cetera, I don’t hesitate to recommend 300
to 600 mg of algae-derived DHA, docosahexaenoic acid. And I think it’s a safe and reasonable thing
to do these days. I think it’s important to give it to growing
infants. And now I see it’s important to give it to
adults as well. I’m a fan of supplemental DHA unless a person
is obviously supplying their own needs without it. If there’s any questionable I’ll do a fingerstick
blood test and do a fatty acid profile and see exactly where they are and what their
needs might be. Indeed we’re talking about vitamin B12, the
cobalamin family of vitamins that are absolutely essential in moving methyl groups around,
turning genes on, turning genes off. It’s essential for nerve function, for bone
marrow and blood function. And it’s an essential nutrient that no animal
makes. B12 is made in the soil by organisms that
live in the soil by soil bacteria. And cows and sheep and dear and antelope and
moose and gazelles, they all have vitamin B12 in their tissues because they’re eating
grass all day and they’re pulling up clumps of grass that have soil particles clinging
to the roots. And in these soil particles are these B12-producing
bacteria. Now, the grazing animal will swallow the B12-producing
bacteria. The B12 is then absorbed and deposits in the
animal’s muscle. And if you kill the animal and eat its flesh,
yes, you will get vitamin B12 that way. However, the animal didn’t make it, the cow
didn’t make it, the antelope didn’t make it. This is bacterial B12 from the soil. Now, we, homo sapiens, human beings, we used
to get our vitamin B12 the same way. We spent all day in ancient times foraging
for calories. We’d pull up roots and tubers out of the ground
and eat them. And we weren�t washing them in chlorinated
water. We certainly would swallow some vitamin B12-producing
bacteria when we ate these unwashed vegetables. When we got ourselves thirsty, it was time
to get a drink, we’d fine the nearest stream and plopped down and then we’d drink stream
water. And there’d be B12 in the stream water. We’d wash into the water after every rainstorm. Animals would deposit it in the streams they
walk through. And so between the unwashed vegetables, the
stream water, well water, when municipal wells were dug there used to be same vitamin B12
flowing through our tissues with the deer and the antelope and the grazing animals. But welcome to the 21st Century. Nobody is eating unwashed vegetables. No one is drinking out of streams. And do the modern sanitation. The vitamin B12 has essentially dropped out
of the plant eaters’ diet. And it’s for that reason, not because the
plant-based diet is any more or less deficient in animal-based diet. Again, the animal doesn’t make these make
vitamin B12 either. I view animal flesh as just a carrier, a vitamin
tablet if you will. So I think it’s absolutely essential that
all plant eaters consume a supplemental source of vitamin B12 because we’re all drinking
sanitized chlorinated water these days. I see a great obsession and preoccupation
with people’s cholesterol numbers, their LDL, HDL ratios, their particle size. All of this is homing down on their lipid
profiles, trying to find that combination that provides protection against atherosclerotic
plaque forming in their arteries. But I find all that attention on numbers and
ratios to be misplaced. Cholesterol plaques do not form in the arteries
just because the cholesterol gets to a certain threshold of mountain. It just sticks to the artery walls. Those cholesterol plaques form as a result
of injury to the artery walls, repeated injuries in the form of oxidizing agent, cigarette
smoke, oxidized animal proteins, free radicals from fried foods, stress hormones, too much
sugar in the diet. All these chemical insoles injure the precious
endothelial lining that lines the arteries. And these repeated injuries are the first
step. Once the endothelial lining is injured then
oxidized cholesterol flowing through the bloodstream insinuates itself into the wall of the artery
[0:09:55] [Indiscernible] inflammatory reaction and the plaque builds up as a result of inflammatory
reaction. This is an injury. This is an inflammatory reaction not just
a passive accumulation cholesterol because your level is such and such a level. [0:10:10] And for that reason the body is perfectly
capable of healing itself. You’re constantly growing new endothelial
lining cells, your bone marrow is constantly putting out showers of stem cells that act
like paving stones and reupholster this endothelial lining. The body wants to heal. These plaques will regress. But you have to stop the ongoing injury. You have to stop cooked animal protein and
the free radicals and the sugars and the stress hormones and the cigarette smoke and all these
accumulated injuries. If you do that and then consume a whole food,
plant-based diet so your artery linings are bathed with resveratrol and sulforaphane and
all these healing phytonutrients, as the weeks go by and the months go by the free radicals
are quenched, the atherosclerotic plaque start to get smaller, the endothelial lining repaves
itself, and arteries heal. It’s a reversible disease just like infection
or broken bone. And so for that reason rather than prescribing
statins and other toxic agents what’s required is remove the injury and supply the healing
nutrients that the body is looking. And clogged arteries open up and angina goes
away and claudication leaves the legs and people wind up with clean arteries. And that’s a great marker for a long healthy
life. Well, type I diabetes is a virtual lack of
insulin because pancreas has been injured. The beta cells just are not putting out insulin. And these folks are going to have to be very
modest in the sugar loads that they consume and they’re going to have to be taking some
type of exogenous insulin in some form or another until pancreas transplants or other
stem cell wizardry can give them the ability to synthesize their own insulin. But that’s about 10% of the people with a
diagnosis of diabetes. 80% to 90% of the people who are pronounced
diabetic in this country now have type II diabetes. Their pancreas puts out lots and lots of insulin. The problem is that their insulin receptors
are all clogged up and they’re clogged up with the fat that they�ve been eating, the
olive oil, the egg yokes, the cheese, the meat fat. All these fats clog up the insulin receptors
from the inside. Fats accumulate called intramyocellular lipid,
it accumulates in the muscle cells. These clog up the insulin receptors. And it was the fats that were making Kempner’s
patients diabetic. Well, he put them on a very, very low-fat
diet. He basically fueled them with carbohydrates
only in the rice and the fruit. And when the body is given that kind of fuel
load it will burn that intramyocellular lipid for energy and the insulin receptors open
up. And whatever little insulin these people were
producing suddenly were fine. And for that reason even though he was giving
them substantial amounts of sugar to metabolize with open insulin receptors and their own
moderates insulin production they’re able to metabolize quite well. It’s the fat that causes the problems for
the type II diabetics, not the sugar. So Kempner took advantage of that physiology. Cancer of course is a very fearsome disease. And one can’t be too arrogant in the face
of this fearsome, fearsome medical field. That said, I’ve been fortunate enough to practice
medicine at a time where I’ve seen evidence that various types of cancer certainly can
be reversed. And I give my colleagues in pharmaceutical
medicine great credit, agents that have been involved especially in the treatment of childhood
leukemia and lymphoma. It’s such a comforting miraculous state that
we’re in because when I started medicine in the ’60s when a child got chronic myelogenous
leukemia or some other blood dyscrasia like that their days were numbered. And it was just so sad to watch children die. And now we can offer these children great
hope. Most of these leukemias are now curable. And to even use that word in the same sentence
with leukemia is a real tribute to our colleagues in pharmaceutical medicine. That said, however, childhood leukemias are
relatively small fraction of the malignant disease that Americans have to deal with. Far more common is breast cancer, prostate
cancer, lung cancer. Those are three most common cancers along
with colon cancer. Lung cancer, of course, the majority is from
smoking. And whether that’s reversible or not it’s
certainly preventable. No one should be inhaling hot smoke into their
lungs for any reason. [0:15:13] But when it comes to these other cancers,
certainly breast and prostate cancer, there is a huge nutritional component. These are hormone-driven cancers. They are driven by estrogens and androgens. And the milieu that makes these cancers more
aggressive has to do with accessible amounts of fats especially vegetable oils in their
diet — it makes tissues unstable and more likely undergo malignant change — a lack
of vitamin D, another stabilizing agent that will set the stage for malignant change. And the hormones that people ingest while
eating the standard American diet, all the estrogens in cow’s milk products and milk
and cheese and ice cream and yogurt are made from the milk of large pregnant bovines. They’re full of estrogens. There are estrogenic pesticides, estrogenic
hormones in meats and dairy products. And people are eating lots of dairy and meat
and chicken. They’re bathing their tissues with hormones
and hormone-like molecules that promote cancer growth. The same thing with men eating lots of testosterone
precursors and all their red meat. And realize also that meat, animal muscle
as well as dairy products both, of them stimulate the production of insulin-like growth factor
1. This is the most potent growth-promoting substance
known to biology. And people consume lots of meat, produce their
own IGF1. But if you’re eating cow’s milk products you’re
eating preformed IGF1. That mother cow wants to give their baby calf
lots of IGF1 to grow which is fine for a baby calf, not fine if you’re a woman with a breast
cancer or man with a prostate cancer. So you got this tremendous carcinogenic drive,
this cancer-producing dry from the American diet. Well, it’s now a very exciting time because
we’re finding that the very same nutritional program that reverses clogged arteries and
lowers high blood pressure, whole food, plant-based diet, now evidence is showing out there that
it seems in many people, especially with early prostate cancers, early breast cancers, have
the ability to pretty much stop these early cancers in their tracks for two reasons of
course. One, almost by definition those animal-based
growth-promoting substances are immediately removed when you adapt the whole food, plant-based
diet. Plus the phytonutrients in the dark green
leafy vegetables, sulforaphane and isothiocyanates, and other ones are stabilizer and they have
an anticancer effect that stabilizes cell membrane. So between taking away the carcinogenic drive
and adding the stabilizing substances and correcting any vitamin D deficiencies, where
there are now many instances showing up of breast and prostate cancers being arrested
and even reversed. And at our very own clinic a TrueNorth Health
Center in Santa Rosa, California I was privileged a few months ago to have a woman come in,
a 44-year-old woman with a lymphoma. And she had lymph nodes in her groin the size
of pigeon eggs. And she did a 23-days water fast followed
by a whole food, plant-based diet. And right before my eyes those big lymph nodes
just basically shrank away. And we have the CT scans before and after
that show the marked reduction of lymph nodes. And her blood count has returned to normal. And granted it’s still nearly stages but we
have every indication that water fast followed by whole food, plant-based diet was very effective
in melting away this woman’s lymphoma. So there’s great power in these nutritional
modalities to deal even with something as fearsome as cancer. And I’m very optimistic for what the future
cam hold with these nutritional therapies for malignant disease. The older I get and the more I appreciate
the human condition the more I realize how much more vast we are than just this collection
of cells and skin and arteries and nerves. We are magnificent energy beings without sounding
too ethereal and too Southern California. [0:19:59] Someone said we are not physical beings having
a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a physical
experience here. And there are all sorts of clever plays on
that but clearly I see the power of the human heart to overcome adversity including overcoming
physical disease. I feel the desire, say, of this woman who
recently cured herself of a lymphoma — she came in with such an intent, “I’m going to
clear this out. I’m going to do a long fast and a clean diet. And I’m going to melt this tumor.” An indeed, there was her intent. The energy of her being I believe was by far
the determining factor in her resolving this malignant disease. And the literature is redolent with so many
examples of people who’ve hung on a desperate situation just on hope and determination and
force their bodies to go beyond what would normally be limits that normal physics and
physiology would impose. The importance we have of our connection to
each other — we are tribal beings. We do not do well without love in our lives. Again, it sounds a little trite or a little
hokey, but one of the most terrible thing that’s turning out that you can do to someone
— and the complaints are bubbling to the surface from the prison system — is put someone
in solitary confinement week after week after week, cut off all connection with other human
beings. It is probably the most extreme punishment
you can inflict on someone. It just shows how deeply we need each other,
how deeply hearts need to resonate with each other’s. It’s been known for a long time that if you
have little newborn babies, you don’t pick them up and cuddle them and give them tactile
demonstration of love and security they stop eating. They go into anaclitic depression, they develop
marasmus and they die. We are that love-dependent. And of course lack of love makes people do
sad and desperate things from use drugs to abuse each other. One might say the greatest disease of all
is lack of love, and that’s what this world is suffering from at this point as many popular
singers who’ve said what the world needs now is love sweet love. Just the only thing that is just too little
of. And it really is true. I see so many of my patients come in for sleep
problems. They want sleeping pills and antidepressants
and things for their aches and pains. The truth is they’re missing love in their
life. It’s really what they want those pills, to
make those ache go way of great lack that they have in their lives. And you want to reach out and give them some
love just to help them feel better. So I’ve been more and more impressed. You can give people all the antibiotics and
anti-inflammatories that you want but unless they love themselves enough to want to heal,
unless they have something to go back to, when they leave their office they have a community
of a stable loving family, then they’re kind of lost souls and physical medicine shrinks
in its ability to heal them. But if they have love, they have hope, they
had determination, then most of what I do become superfluous. The body knows how to heal itself very well. And it’s been such a joy in medicine to watch
the power of love and connection bring such magnificent healing into people’s lives. I used to enjoy eating out in restaurants. Not so much anymore. The more I’m aware of the adverse effects
of foods rich with salt and sugar and fat and what it does to my body I realized that
most restaurant food is precisely bad. It’s basically salt, sugar and fat. And very often as I’m leaving the Indian restaurant
or the Chinese restaurant I’m thinking to myself, “I’m sorry. I walked in here.” I’m feeling heavy and greasy. I know my blood pressure is going up. And so try to avoid restaurant food as much
as possible. But on those occasions, social necessity takes
me into a restaurant setting. I try to make it as least damaging experiences
as possible. And so I have a couple of strategies. One is that before I go out to eat I eat. I have salad and apple. I can hear my mother saying, “You’re going
to ruin your appetite doing that.” And I’m thinking that’s exactly what I want
to do. So I don’t walk into the restaurant famished
and polish off a basket of bread before the waiter gets there. And I will then look to find the healthiest
things I can on the menu. In the Italian restaurant I’ll find the minestrone
soup and the broccoli rabe and the side vegetables and the salad. [0:25:09] And that’s enough because I’ve gotten to the
point — I’m there to be with my friends. I have no obligation to stuff myself with
unhealthy food just because I’m in a restaurant. I’m a grown man. It’s nobody’s business what I order for lunch
or dinner. It’s not my business what they order. And I don�t want to make a big scene. When people have given their orders I don�t
want to stand out and say, “I’m vegetarian. I’m vegan. I can eat this.” I say nothing. I just catch the waiter’s eye or the wait
person’s eye and have him come over. “Show me the menu. This looks good. Can your chef make this without the chicken?” “Oh, sure. We can do that, sir.” “Can they make this without the cheese and
can you saut� the veggies in broth instead of oil?” “Well, we can do that, sir.” “Thank you.” Done. You don�t have to make a big scene out of
it. So you do the best you can, enjoy your friends
and get out of there as soon as you can. So restaurants can be a challenge but they
don’t have to be an unqualified disaster for your health. If you want to contact me I invite you to
go my website www.DoctorKlaper.com. And those are all spelled out, those two words,
D-O-C-T-O-R-K-L-A-P-E-R, one P in Klaper, DoctorKlaper.com. And if anyone like to contact me at the TrueNorth
Health Center where I’m working, the phone number in Santa Rosa, California, about an
hour north of San Francisco, is area code 707-586-5555. I do many consultations by phone but also
I enjoy doing Skype and FaceTime consultations. I love to see the peoples as I’m talking to
them. So I invite people to call the front desk
at TrueNorth and arrange such consultation. But please come to DoctorKlaper.com. You’ll find lots of articles and webinars
including the recent one I’ve just done, Thriving in a Plant-Based Diet. So come to DoctorKlaper.com and I think you’ll
find many worthwhile features there.

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Reader Comments

  1. Plus Bonus

    dL 1011,you bring up some valid points that in the name of Vegan integrity should not be ignored.
    Two sides to all coins.
    Both omni and Vegan diets have pros and cons depending on many variants.

  2. Emir Yılkıcı

    Why don't we give vegan food to infants? Breast milk is full of cholesterol and is not vegan. At what point will your bullshit stop Klaper and other idiots like Bernard? Seriously.

  3. SimplyPatti

    I love the phrase “bathe your tissues in a healing river of phytonutrients.” ! Isn’t that just a peaceful image? Now, imagine bathing your tissues in a river of animal products. 😳😱🤮

  4. David Day

    Veganism is an agenda 21 depopulation protocol. Veganism advocates a nutrient deficient diet high in arterial damaging & nutrient depleting glucose, which is suicide. Veganism advocates replacing the symbiotic relationship between plants & animals that our ecosystem relies upon, with chemically reliant mono crops that destroy bio-diversity & acidifies the soil, which is ecocide. As veganism advocates suicide & ecocide by design, by definition veganism is a Doctrine of the Devil.

    Farming chemically reliant mono-crops is the single most destructive force man has inflicted upon the ecosystem. It's estimated that farming animals costs one life per acre & chemically reliant mono crops cost up to 300 lives per acre, even the earth worms cannot survive in such a toxic environment. False Dietary Advice is the single largest cause of disease & premature death in the human species. Veganism does not have one ethical, medical or moral leg to stand on & needs to be exposed for what it truly is.

    Animal cells are made from fat & protein, which are essential nutrients for a human being. Plant cells are made from cellulose, which is a type of glucose. Glucose is not an essential nutrient & is in fact an anti-nutrient. Cattle, sheep, goats & all ruminant animals ferment cellulose to feed gut bacteria. They digest very little glucose & get their requirements for protein & fat from bacteria. They are in effect always in ketosis. A carnivore is designed to break down their food with acid & digest all they consume.

    Gluconeogenesis provides the correct type & exact dose of glucose as required, all glucose consumed is excess & is processed into fat, causing obesity. Producing insulin & adrenaline to process the glucose depletes one of essential nutrients, causing nutrient deficient disease such as type 2 diabetes. While the excess glucose is in the blood stream it turns the blood pH acidic, this acidic environment damages the inner lining of the arteries, causing atherosclerosis.

    Plants are not nutrient dense, they are mostly sugar, their nutrients are in a low form with very low bio-availability & converting the nutrients into a higher form that humans require is a very inefficient process, meaning a whole lot goes in & only a small amount comes out. Which is why one cannot meet their daily requirements of heme iron by consuming non heme iron & why saying one can get all essential amino acids from mixing beans with brown rice is another false vegan theory tale. Because no one could possibly consume enough plant matter to gain complete nutrition.

    Also, do some research on some of the toxins found in plants & how they affect a human being. Such as Lectins, Goitragens & Oxalic acid, just to name a few & look up fat soluble vitamins A, D, E & K2.

    Eating whole foods means eating foods whole in nutrition, all grains & all fruit & veg do not contain all essential nutrients required to process the glucose contained therein, let alone provide for all other daily nutritional requirements. The cause of atherosclerosis, type 2 diabetes, obesity & most so called metabolic disorders is sugar & all foods digested as sugar, which includes all grains & most fruit & veg.

    The cure is to simply remove the cause.
    https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/low-carb-diet-diabetes-diet-and-scientific-research.html

    Dr. Barry Groves / Homo Carnivorus: What We Are Designed to Eat / Carnivore Diet / Ketogenic Diet
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2qdyKxU0YU

    Veganism Almost Killed Me – Organ Failure, Kidney Stones & why Leafy Greens Are NOT a Health food
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrBgwpJCh5w&t=6s&fbclid=IwAR2fS9TcL5L31D6tDavO_cGsI_LpHzGtDpIo7DCWmk1p0gjPg9C3m-u2IQo

  5. I'm not a real doctor but I play one on YouTube

    Leave the word vegan out and even more people would be open to it. Its completely ok to want to be healthy without doing it for the animals.

  6. Stephen Armour

    Its funny how any doctor Doe's not tell you. THAT ALL PLANTS ARE POISONOUS its a proven fact. Why are all vegans poisoning themselves to prove a point no sane person would poison themselves it goes against your survival instinct. And all the sugar you consume in your daily diet 350 to 400+ plus a day on the vegan diet. Sugar is worse than alcohol another proven fact the vegan diet is severely bad for you.

  7. Matt Parker

    What a load of BS. Your unnatural diet will result in mass vitamin, mineral and amino acid deficiencies. Autoimmune disease, inflammation, rotten teeth, poorly developed bodies, mental illness and on an on. Great work.

  8. FOR8YESHUA

    The 3 Big Cs have their enemy is Garlic. See Doctor Gregors Nutrition Facts video #1 Anticancer Vegetable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tAAehC4BYs

  9. Saved Starr

    What about Organic pasture raised animal products? Of course processed animals products are terrible for you, I find it disturbing to compare a Plant based diet to a processed animal diet, why don't you allow some more in depth studies, like Organic vs. not, or give people a hand up with the change from conventional animal products to Organic for starters, lol.

    With the comment of Omega-3's he stated to take a supplement, thumbs down Doc. supplements are for fools.

  10. Picco bow

    Ooookhow old are you doc? If you are in you 60 or 70 you look 80. Veganism ages you fast. And for your info
    It isn’t the fat that is injurious to the body it’s THE DAMN SUGARS everytime the sugar spikes up insulin rises and converts the sugars into fat!! Cholesterol has very little to with CVD’s Every cell in the human body has cholesterol we get the cholesterol from our selves or from dietary fats.

  11. TechniSmart

    Thank you Dr. Klaper for answering the questions. It would have been much more informative if it was a 2 person interview rather than a monologue.

  12. TechniSmart

    I would not describe it as an "interview", because we have no idea what the questions were, and thus the monologue has no context. That said, Dr. Klaper's knowledge is amazing.

  13. Citizenthirteen

    Have you ever looked at the sauces added to ' Indian food" My gosh no wonder Indians have a high rate of diabetes. Massive amounts of oily fat and sugar . Ghee is a staple for some and is absolutely disgusting. Just because you're an Indian vegetarian doesn't mean you are healthy.

  14. Don Adams

    how about oxalates…no mentions of these babies…Research shows there is no difference
    between vegan/meat eaters/vegetarians….in regards to diseases…so go figure.

  15. Radnally

    Its amazing to me how many people refer to how ancient man was somehow healthier. What a joke. Seriously poor logic is taught nowadays, if it is taught at all.

  16. Mira Phoenix

    The thing about love is sooooo true Dr.! That is so good. When you are interested to learn more about it look ar: www.lawof.life or Dr. Horst Müller here on youtube

  17. D S

    I’m 65, and take no prescribed medications. I plan on using that money for other goals. When I was in my early 60s, I was faced with a decision, pre-diabetes, cholesterol meds, etc. I told my doctor, no thanks, I’ll try something else first. That something else was no animal products, results were wonderful! It was easy for me as I never cared for meat to begin with. I only ate it because of the ‘protein myth’. When I realized I didn’t have to consume meat, I felt free.

  18. Paul Zhang

    We know from science and medical doctors that vegan diet is optimal for human health. I hope people think beyond just their own health and acknowledge the true victims of non veganism or carnism. I'm vegan solely for health reasons too, not my health but the health of the animals. To me the essence of veganism is about animals and the planet, and less about ourselves. We all need to stop self obsessing so much and focus more of our energy on helping others, animals and the planet which will benefit all of us in the big picture.

  19. dimitris948

    I dont understand Klaper says people are vegan ok eat exactly what an Elephant eats the way he eats it get on a tree and start eating leaves . Dont eat all that chemical supplements they are selling you .lets see how long you will be healthy . Of course you will have medical problems with all the junk you were eating . Eat clean grass fed meat , clean fresh fish , not pizza and mcdonalds and you will be healthy . 95% of the dairy in supermarkets are from powder milk thats why dairy is bad . Find cheese from fresh milk .Veganism is simply a cleansing diet, yet people have turned it into a cult

  20. Maxine Simms

    I am a type two diabetic: my experience with carbohydrates is definitely different. Any type of simple carbohydrates spikes my glucose level. I can consume complex starch and in so doing I will have to decrease my insulin intake, however, it’s the same thing when I go on a protein diet, I need less insulin. One cannot live a healthy lifestyle on a protein diet, but my point regarding what he stated about carbohydrates and protein, that does not work for me. Ps, I do lose weight on a protein diet when coupled with plant based carbs.

  21. Delgado Protocol

    James Cameron has produced a new movie called Game Changer with Arnold admitting that we must avoid dairy milk and we are best to consume a plant based diet rather that a meat centered diet. https://youtu.be/kJtCs-KWBo8 I believe we will be able to support the health advantages of plant based supplements and a hormonal balanced approach using herb. See http://NickDelgado.com People bring up how resilient humans are and that it is ok to eat meat, dairy or even to smoke. Teenagers and blue collar workers now smoke more than other groups of people, yet everyone knows smoking or abuse of alcohol is not a healthy habit. The Asian paradox that they smoke more than most cultures because Asians eat mostly a plant centered diet (rice veggies) and the blue zones show a high proportion of veggies fruit, and legumes. See http://Delgadoprotocol.com for even more guidance, motivation and facts. Even the advancement of the use of hypnosis we call NLP and Neuro reprogramming to help those struggling with the subconscious mind to overcome the 97% of those who fail and want an easier way to stop smoking or to stop eating so much meat, chicken, fish and dairy. See the online courses at http://Delgadoprotocol.com

  22. Rachel Kogan

    Yes, in the past we ate meat, this was purely survival, we are not under those circumstances anymore.
    Just as people who perhaps become stranded and decide the only way to live is to eat their, perhaps already dead friend, or kill their friend, to survive.

    In order to do this we would have to push back everything in our mind that naturally tells us how wrong this is to do.
    This is because humans have moral agency, this allows us to decipher right from wrong.
    So what animals do out in the wild, like rape eachother, kill their children, and even killing other animals for survival (though it's quite brutal) … we can't use this to justify what we do, because other animals don't possess moral agency.

    As for humans being omnivores or not, humans are not omnivorous.
    Natural meat eaters don't use tools, they use what they've been biologically been given, our intelligence doesn't make us an acception to this.

    Humans vs. Omnivores:
    We have hands, not claws.
    We sip water, not lap water.
    Our jaw moving from side to side to grind our food, unlike natural meat eaters who's jaws strictly move up and down.
    Our teeth we use to chew, not shear.
    Our flattened molars, compared to their blade shaped, crushing molars.
    Our big and flattened incisors, their short and pointed incisors.
    Our alkaline urine, their acidic urine.
    Our digestion takes 12 to 18 hours, theirs takes 6 to 10 hours.
    Our large salivary glands, their small salivary glands.
    Our long intestines (9 times our body length) that aren't designed for meat like natural meat eaters short intestines (3 times their body length), because this way meat won't rot before it comes out the other end.
    People are developing bowel cancer because of meat rotting in their intestines.

    Not only this type of cancer are we getting from eating meat and dairy … but also colon cancer, prostate cancer, breast cancer, osteoporosis, heart disease, strokes, diabetes, etc.
    These diseases are largely connected to:
    cholestrol (only found in animal products), and saturated fats that are high in animal products.

    A whole foods, plant based, vegan diet has been shown to reverse and treat these diseases.
    Check out, "What The Dairy Industry Doesn't Want You To Know", a speech presented by Dr. Neal Barnard, to learn the science behind this.

    The American Dietetic Association and The British Dietetic Association have stated that a vegan diet is nutritionally adequate, healthy and safe, through all stages of life, including pregnancy.

    Also, the United Nations, not some vegan telling you this, the United Nations have stated that to avoid the irreversible climate change that approaches us in 12 years, the world must switch to a vegan diet.
    This is because animal agriculture is the #1 cause of global warming, and is detrimental to our planets health, causing water pollution, habitat destruction, species extinction, deforestation.

    91% of deforestion in the Amazon Rainforest is due to clearing for soy production to feed to livestock. The rest is for palm oil.
    It's also predicted that we could see fishless oceans by 2048, in our own life time, we could see fishless oceans.

    So nothing on this planet isn't affected by our intake of animal products, or animal agriculture. Nothing.

    So we ask the question, not only, "are your taste buds worth more than a life that was needlessly murdered?",
    but,
    "are your taste buds worth more than our planet?".

    What do we want to leave behind for our children and grandchildren?
    This is extremely important, especially now.

    Check out, "Cowspiracy", and "What The Health", (on Netflix) to learn more about the health implications that eating meat has on us.
    Go to www.cowspiracy.com afterwards, and click through to the information and facts to see the countless articles and studies to prove what they inform us on.
    Also check out, "Dominion", to see the common practices within animal agriculture, and what happens inside a slaughter house.

  23. DoodleSparklecleaning

    We share 98% of our DNA with gorillas, they eat a plant based diet yet they have huge canines. A vegan cardiovascular surgeon lived until he was 111 seems a vegan diet suited him! Meat contains hormones, saturated fat which clogs arteries. Dairy too contains hormones, and is a calf’s nutrition it’s not meant for human consumption. Would you breast feed a calf? I’m all for plant based if you can get your B12 and DHA omega 3’s

  24. YogiB

    I am an Indian living in India. After bingeing on SAD for 4 years, I switched back to home made foods which are all plant based, vd very little mustard oil.
    Already seeing great result.

  25. Mihali’s B

    They also follow a "biblical" diet focused on grains, fruits, nuts and vegetables, and drink only water. (Some of them eat small amounts of meat and fish.) Sugar is taboo, too. As one Loma Linda centenarian tells Buettner: "I'm very much against sugar except natural sources like fruit, dates or figs. I never eat refined sugar or drink sodas."

    Live a little

  26. Mihali’s B

    We already know you shouldn’t eat anything boxed or bagged, food colored, poison and toxic, however; stop telling people they can’t eat 3-4 ounces of meat every week or two. Everyone thinks they know 100%, the only person who knew 100% was Jesus Christ stating;
    Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

    Dr.s have huge egos. have a good one ✌️

  27. TodaysRealHealth

    Every time I go over meat eaters diets they are all deficient in B12, correct vitamin D, iron levels to low, or way to high from heavy metals, I could go on and on. The on,y healthy people I have seen were vegans since childhood or teenage years. Those who are in the sun, those who exercise outdoors and are grateful. Cleansing and detoxing is extremely essential to get rid of all the toxins and old undigested meats stuck in the body. Going vegan alone is often with toxic meat heads not enough.

  28. Philip Zanoni

    Doctor Kepler you are using adjectives and verbs to make eating a pile of indigestible things that the body is not designed to break down..
    you're so obvious in your attempt to make the vegan diet sounds appealing that anyone with any sense of intuition we'll see your selling Amway

  29. Suzannahartist

    He is amazing!!!! He helped me when I was heading towards obesity. He is super kind. I was savagely assaulted at MD's office a running punch to my head by the MD Dr Fagelman's employee. Google Dr Fagelman assault. His employee was not fired but they got the nypd to join in breaking laws. I was gaslighted threatened on the youtube proving the truth — my brain hurts. Dr Klaper, Dr McDougall examples 2 MD great integrity and compassion. They are honest and courageous

  30. chris kazakoff

    I wonder if this has the knowhow to do a good keto diet for a vagan. I want to hear this Doctorsopinion . on how to do it

  31. Rip van Winkle

    What a bunch of fucking pseudo science.
    Does this man seriously claim prehistoric humans got their B12 from rolling in shit and survived on berry bushes?
    No wonder he looks like a dead banana fucking hell. I pity everyone who takes him seriously

  32. Mark Davis

    Why would you risk your kids getting nutrient deficiency. B12 deficiency is no joke. EPA DHA K-2 vitamin A and D zinc protein selenium calcium iodine iron are all inadequate when you eat a unnatural herbivore diet. So you must give your child supplements. Google Pubmed supplements

    The article "Does my child need supplements?" published March 18, 2018 by The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

    When to Supplement
    Children who follow vegetarian or vegan diets may need to supplement with vitamin B12, since it’s only found in animal-based foods. Additionally, children who drink a lot of sugar-sweetened beverages, who have a poor appetite, take certain medications may need a supplement.

    Seek Advice First
    Discuss supplements with your child’s health care provider before giving them to your child. Taking large amounts of vitamins that exceed the recommended daily amount can be toxic and lead to symptoms such as nausea, headaches or diarrhea. Always store supplements out of reach from children. Thousands of children are taken to the emergency room each year after taking a vitamin or mineral while unsupervised. Supplement bottles are not required to have child-proof lids. In addition, supplement ingredients are not as closely monitored as prescription drugs by the Food and Drug Administration, so always practice caution when supplements are in the home with small children.

    While there are circumstances when supplements may be needed, getting vitamins and minerals through food and drink should be the goal for growing children. If you feel your child may need a supplement, consult their healthcare provider.
    Reviewed June 2018

  33. Wendy Fiolek

    People talk about how the Vegan diet miraculously cured all of their diseases. I was a strict Vegan and it did nothing but make my health so much worse. Once I went back to eating animal protein, I felt so much better.

  34. Catherine Bennett

    What works for one person does not mean everyone can eat the same thing and be healthy. I have been overweight my entire adult life (I AM 56 ) I always considered veganism as too radical and could not contemplate eating that way. My niece became a vegan earlier this year and I started looking for recipes for things I could cook for her. I then asked her help to try and eat vegan twice a week. I prepared everything I needed and planned to start on the Mon but actually started on Sat and have never stopped. I have been eating this way for just over 4 months now and have lost 13 kegs so far. The only other time in my life I lost weight consistently was when I had a gastric band. I have had no sugar cravings, not a single biscuit have I eaten. Being able to successfully eat this way happily is like a gift from God. I do still have a lot of weight to loose but I can now picture myself in a couple of years being a normal weight.

  35. Toni

    So why don't you eat dirty vegetables drink drink stream and river water now? If you think it's so good for you. Are you trying to tell us that people didn't eat meat for millions of years? BS.

  36. athena energy Shine

    That’s reassuring I am trying to be a healthy vegan whole food plant based but I get criticised of not having enough omega 3 or B12 and there’s no generational studies of vegan. Thanks for reassuring I am still new at this

  37. warren green

    While it's obvoiusly not 100%, when I see the regression of plague, with the LDL cholesterol levels below 80mg/dL, that's where I'm headed. Partly because, I've been there before.

  38. Barb H

    Occasionally, I will write in comment section as to the amazing results my husband and I have experienced since going vegan. If I can improve the quality of life for just one person than my efforts have not been in vain. My husband a vegetarian (25 years), before changing to a vegan diet was pre- diabetic, had gout that was out of control even on allopurinol, high BP is completely off of the aforementioned medicine, with his bp meds cut in half. I had IBS, high BP, liver function numbers askew and severe arthritis. The IBS completely gone, minimal BP meds, and arthritis is at least 75% better. We are again in love with food and cooking and eating as much as we desire. My husband went from 170 to 150 lbs., and I went from 129 to 119 lbs. Can't recommend of say enough good about this type of diet.

  39. KyleAroundTheWorld

    Wonderful, Vegan diet works within the past 100ish years because of advancements (ex: vitamins and fortified foods) and crop surplus, I'm all for it!

    But let's be honest, the vegan diet for thousands of years couldn't, wouldn't, and didn't sustain the human race. There is not one civilization that is still in existence that survived on a 100% pure vegan diet. Even if you ate 90% (generous number) whole grains, veggies, fruits, and nuts and 10% meat, you aren't a vegan. The simple fact is we needed meat in order to survive. Let's call an apple an apple and not get on a high horse and try to make it seem like meat and fish didn't help us achieve the survival of the human race.

  40. Phoebe Graveyard

    I am distracted but the couch and curtains. They keep reminding of the black dress gold dress debate. Seriously though, great talk and I hope more people choose vegan for the sake of the planet and stay vegan because the food is amazing.

  41. carpe diem

    One can argue vegan all day long, but people are not going to give up meat and dairy. The only answer is to come up with replacements and recepies (usually Indian or African) that are so good, they become as attractive. Once, I made a vegetarian pizza for a meat eater. They couldn't believe how good it was. Being a vegetarian for years, i got to where I was gagging on veggies or going hungry. Veganism is only going successful through a lot of work.

  42. baltimore email sent

    This was a really good interview/thought session. I may didn’t get a lot of specifics such as a how to but it was really down to earth and he seems like he straightforward realistic person especially when he talks about going to the restaurant and eating out socially “I’m a grown man it’s really no one’s business what I eat” speaking truth being a vegan or vegetarian doesn’t mean you have to put a spotlight on your decision more than someone else needs to. I didn’t realize he was going to talk almost for 30 minutes but wow it was a great talk though!

  43. Jewlz4ever

    Imagine putting a chunk of raw chicken breast in a grocery bag and leaving it out in 98.6° heat for 2-3 days. Imagine the stench after only 24 hours as it starts to rot. Meat begins to rot after only 4 hours at that temperature. This is exactly what happens inside the human body when having eaten meat. Our digestive tracts are so long that it takes meat 48-72 hours to exit our bodies. And remember meat starts rotting inside us after only 4 hours. So for the next 44-68 hours the meat just putrefies more as it moves through us before it’s finally able to make its foul exit. 🤢 🤮 And people wonder why they get bad breath and body odor! But those are actually the least of their health concerns if they continue eating animal products!

  44. Marvin Tiger

    Dr Klaper is so kool in his personal life that all of us listeners can see clear that he knows the greatness of plant base food into our internal organs great health impact of healing. Plus Dr Klaper is a man that truly loves people genuinely. He totally is an amazing Soul !!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Dr Klaper

  45. Yoso

    But such a run around, go around about b12 after confessing a need for supplemental dha. If you are vegan, fine. You’ll need some supplements. Just remember, that in general, people have never stood by or passed up animal foods. In fact, they’d often go to great lengths to acquire them. They do have nutritional value

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