Ketosis vs Atkins Diet | #ScienceSaturday

(upbeat drumming) (musical tinkling) – What’s going on Jigsaw Health Crew, it’s Thomas DeLauer, and today I’m talking about the difference between Ketosis and modified Atkins. A lot of you had some
really interesting questions that you posted up in the comments section underneath some of my keto videos. So I figured it’s perfect
to really talk about the true therapeutic ketogenic diet versus what we commonly
know as The Atkins Diet. To have an understanding of
what’s good for your health, not just cosmetic results. So let’s get right into the science. You see, Ketosis wasn’t just discovered by some fitness guy that decided, “Hey, if we cut out carbs
out of the equation, “everyone’s going to get in shape “and everyone’s going to
feel good and look amazing, “and be full of vein, and
everything like that.” No, it has to do with treatment. It has to do with therapies. In fact, it was way back when, it was literally 500BC that Hippocrates started writing about fasting having a major effect on epilepsy. People think that it’s all
this modern science thing. No, it goes way back when. People discovered that if they
were abstaining from food, all of these different illnesses would magically start to go away. But of course they didn’t
have modern technology to really identify what was going on. So it took until about 1921
when a particular doctor, Dr Galen discovered
that it was the ketones that were the common
denominator when it came to treating illnesses. So they started looking at things saying, “Okay, if we have fasting
and fasting is illiciting “this amazing response, “what is it exactly about fasting
that is treating epilepsy? “And treating some of these diseases?” Well, it was ketones. When you’re fasting, you’re
in a ketogenic state. What’s so funny is that there are so many different people
out there that bag on the ketogenic diet, they
just love to bag on it. They just say it’s horrible and that it’s going to
raise your cholesterol, and it’s going to do all of this, but they’re totally fine with fasting. Well the interesting thing
is that we’re ultimately going after the same
thing when it comes down to the positive effects. All we’re trying to do with ketosis is get those ketone bodies
up that would normally occur when you’re fasting. So it wasn’t until 1924
when the guy by the name of Dr Wilder at the Mayo Clinic discovered the true ketogenic diet. Now when I say the true ketogenic diet, I mean the ketogenic
diet that has been used to treat epilepsy and
has been used to treat different glucose impairment issues. Where your body can’t use glucose. So really, it wasn’t until
1924 that it was actually put into a system and we
were able to truly extract all the data from 1921 and
put it into an actual diet. So where does this come into play with what’s happening today? You see, today we’re
seeing all kinds of people doing the keto diet. And I’m someone that promotes it, but what is really going on? You see, the classic keto
diet is like a 4:1 ratio of fats to protein. 3:1 at the very most. What is it today? Well most people end up
consuming a 1:1 or 2:1 if they’re really doing
a halfway decent job. So all of the science, everything we know about ketosis is looking
at the 3:1 or 4:1. But no one wants to do that today. You see the Atkins diet, or today it’s called the
modified Atkins diet, is really more like that 2:1. Is it effective? Absolutely, it’s still very effective at helping your body restructure. But are you getting the
benefits of the ketone bodies? Probably not. What am I fan of? I’m a fan of kind of
splitting the difference. I’m in the ballpark of 3:1. I think we should have our fats high, but it’s not that exciting for people. People are much more likely to dive into a prime rib, or dive into a rib eye steak, than they are likely to dive into a bowl of coconut oil. And that’s where the
common divergence occurs. People don’t truly
understand the difference between the ketogenic
diet, and modified Atkins. But here’s something that
you should probably know. If you’re following more of a modern diet, a modern style of ketosis, there’s a good chance you’re
consuming so much protein that your body’s going
into gluconeogenesis and kicking out of ketosis
in the first place. Even if it’s not when you’re measuring it on the little keto sticks or your breath meter, okay? You’re still probably
coming out of ketosis a lot more than you think. So we need to start addressing
the therapeutic issues and what the ketogenic diet can do if you’re doing it right, as far as therapy is concerned. Now, don’t get me wrong, I still want to talk
about the cosmetic thing, because I still want to
talk about body composition and how that’s gonna work, but let’s take a look at what’s going on when it comes down to a
therapeutic side of things. So ketosis is used for a
lot of different things, but when it comes down to
the different energy states, when the body can’t produce
the right kind of energy that it needs from glucose. Okay, we’re talking about a pyruvate dehydrogenase deficiency. Maybe you remember from biology
class that pyruvate cycle, or Krebs cycle, where sugar goes in and it
goes through the Krebs cycle ultimately creates pyruvic acid and ultimately creates energy. Well some people have issues where they don’t create that. So that’s where ketosis comes in as a great alternative fuel source. It’s literally a different fuel source for the mitochondria to use. Now we have to remember, that ketosis is all about
mitochondrial function. We’re trying to find a different way that the mitochondria can still
run on fuel without glucose. Another one is going to be something like Phosphofructokinase deficiency which is in the same vein. Your body cannot produce
the right kind of sugars, it cannot produce the right
kind of energy from glucose, so ketone bodies come into play. But what about some of the
more popular ones okay? Things like neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s. How does that work? Well, it still comes
down to the mitochondria. So I’m getting to a point here, don’t just think that I’m talking just about the therapeutic side of things, because I’m going to get to a point, and it all has to do
with that mitochondria. In the case of Parkinson’s disease, it ends up being where
the body doesn’t have the ability to transfer sugar through the blood brain barrier properly and it ends up getting misconstrued through something known as Complex I. This Complex I ends up making it so that the mitochondria cannot function properly. Therefore it’s not
sending the right signals, therefore dopamine
responses aren’t working, thus you have Parkinson’s disease. But when you have ketosis, you have ketone bodies that can cross the blood brain barrier, and actually activate the mitochondria. Giving new life to patients
with Parkinson’s disease because they now have a
back up energy source. So some of the people that
are going to be speculative about the ketogenic diet are
going to say to me right now, “Okay, well this is great. “It’s great for people
that are having issues. “It’s an alternative back up fuel source.” Well, I would argue this. When has the mainstream
ever totally led us completely right on target? Just because we discovered
a different way of eating with a different fuel source doesn’t mean that that’s not
the right or the wrong way. If we have the ability
to switch back and forth, it seems like it’s actually a nice sparing way to work. You’re sparing the mitochondria. You’re not going to burn out
the glucose side of things, you’re not going to burn
out the fat side of things, so maybe you go through
phases of ketogenic therapy where you actually treat your body and give your mitochondria a break by activating a different portion of it, anyway, I digress. But let’s talk about
cancer for one second too, because cancer’s a big one. Ketosis and cancer is a hugely
researched topic right now. It all has to do with the fact that cancer cells are very unique. I’ve done a lot of personal research into the world of cancer. Those of you that know me well know that I lost my father
in February to cancer, and I was investigating
cancer research and ketosis for a long time too. In fact some of the
doctors over at UC Davis that I was speaking to when
my dad was in treatment were big advocates of
using ketogenic therapies as an adjunct to chemotherapy. Not just as at therapy,
but as an adjunct to. It’s going to help chemotherapy. Now here’s why. Cancer cells are unlike
other cells in the body, we know that. But they’re very much unlike other cells in terms of how they are
receptive to glucose. They have 10 times the amount of insulin receptors on them. What does that mean? It means that when you
consume carbohydrates they are 10 times more likely to utilize those carbohydrates than
other cells in your body. Which means that they are going to grow, and they are going to thrive on sugars. Well, they’re also kind of funky, simply because they don’t have the ability to metabolize fats very well. Their mitochondria is damaged. Remember, cancer cells are rogue cells, they’re not totally like normal cells. They don’t function like
other cells in our body. They don’t have a nice
system and a policy, and a standard operating
procedure to go through. They go through their own
little funky little mechanism and their mitochondria is damaged. It can’t utilize fats. So when you are giving
your body a lot of fats and not a lot of carbohydrates they don’t know how to utilize that and they start to starve off. But anyway, I’m starting
to go too far down the therapeutic line. The point is this, if you’re looking to do a ketogenic diet, I encourage you to investigate
why you’re doing it. So then how does this all
link back to the Atkins diet? And how does this all link
back to body composition and the diet that’s for you? I’m not saying that
either one is truly bad, but I am stressing that you take a look at how the ketogenic
diet works in your body, because that’s the true
thing that we’re after when we go on a keto diet. The body composition
changes are going to occur, but if you’re sticking in
the modified Atkins approach where you’re consuming like 1:1 or 2:1, you are more than likely
going to experience a lot more lethargy. You’re not going to feel as good, and this simply has to do with the fact that you’re never truly using
ketones as a source of fuel. You’re using them for periods of time when it’s useful for your body. And then as soon as your body feels like it still needs glucose it’s either going to convert those
excess proteins into glucose or you’re not getting
enough fats to actually promote ketone bodies so you’re going to start breaking down
your own muscle tissue. There’s a lot of flaws
in the modified Atkins, and I don’t want you to
think that the Atkins diet is the true ketogenic diet. There is a distinct difference. Now again, I’ll be the first to say that most of the people out there are probably doing some
form of the modified Atkins or some form Atkins in the first place. It still works. You’re still going to see some changes in your body composition because you are dramatically reducing your insulin levels, and that is definitely positive. There’s so many amazing
things that are attributed to lower insulin levels. So I’m not saying it’s bad, but I am saying before you
bag on the ketogenic diet, understand the science, understand the direct ratios, understand some of the research
that Dr. Dom D’agostino has done and has put out
there on the internet and on podcasts and out
there in the entire world for us to read. I’m a huge consumer of his content and I think that he
really has the right idea, because at the end of the day, we do have to make sure that we are our own
advocates for our health, and if the ketogenic
diet is going to be a way that we can reduce
inflammation and actually have a neuroprotective effect on our body. I feel like it’s definitely good for even the average
person to cycle in and out of ketosis for longer periods of time, like three to six months. Is it a lifestyle that
you want to do forever? That’s going to totally be
on you if you like the food. At the end of the day, I just want you to know the difference between modified Atkins
and the ketogenic diet. And of course, don’t forget fasting. Because at the end of the day, this is what it’s all about. We’re fasting right, we’re
just trying to mimic fasting. So there you have it Jigsaw Crew. As always keep it locked
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Reader Comments

  1. Shanna Lasley

    When you say a 3:1 fat ro protein ratio is that in grams? I have macros set at 70% fat 25% protein and 5% carbs but when it comes to grams my fats and proteins are similar.

  2. TotPYsera

    Dr. Robert Atkins literally uses the word "ketosis" many, many times in his book and describes it as the guiding principle of his diet. It's where I first heard the word ketosis and learned what it is. Atkins is a ketogenic diet because "Ketogenic" is not a brand, it's a bio chemistry term.

  3. JP S

    My Dr took me off of Keto when my cholesterol went sky high.I'm not a kid and she told me I was headed for a heart attack. I am watching my carbs but she says Keto is way too much fat FOR ME. I'm sure others can do it successfully but I am just too old to do it I guess.

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