JOE ROGAN’S Vegan Epiphany?! | Vegan News | LIVEKINDLY

– [Narrator] This week, Joe Rogan explains how he feels about slaughterhouses. A vegan cooking show is coming to ITV, and a dancewear brand creates
cashmere made from beans. All this and more on
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like and comment below. Oatly launched a new advertising campaign at Waterloo Station in London. The giant billboard, situated above cafes and turnstiles, reads, “Go ahead, eat like a vegan.” Opened in 1848, Waterloo Station is the busiest station in the UK, with more than 94 million passengers coming through the
station in the last year, according to the Office of Rail and Road. Last year, Oatly announced the launch of a 700,000-pound advertising
campaign in the UK. The oatmeal company is known for its unique advertising style. It created a 15-second commercial, which aired on All 4, the on-demand platform for Channel Four. ♪ No ♪ ♪ Wow no cow ♪ ♪ No no no ♪ – Oatly also put up
advertisements in several London underground stations, including King’s Cross, Oxford Circus, Shoreditch, Peckham and Brixton. The ads feature statements like, “It’s like milk, but made for humans.” Michael Lee, Oatly’s creative
and strategic director for international markets, said in a statement, “Some
consider our messaging “to be controversial. “We disagree, it’s fact. “Because our oat drinks
actually are made for humans, “rather than for baby cows.” Louie Psihoyos, director
of the vegan documentary “The Game Changers,” was a guest on “The Joe
Rogan Experience” podcast. The pair discussed climate change, factory farming, and how Rogan
feels about slaughterhouses. Rogan has long been vocal about his animal-based diet, and has frequently
encouraged his vegan guests to eat non-vegan food. However, he may be
turning over a new leaf. Musing on how we might be able to feed the growing population, Rogan says he has hope for clean meat. Real meat grown with animal
cells, without slaughter. – I am not a fan of factory farming. It’s the reason why I got into
hunting in the first place. I saw a lot of those PETA documentaries, and I just didn’t wanna have any part of any of that (beep). Like, all that stuff is wrong. I mean, all of it’s wrong. Whether chickens, raising
chickens like that, or cows like that, or pigs like that. – [Narrator] He added that ag-gag laws keep people from divulging the horrors of these factory farms. – There’s gotta be a
way to stop those laws, first of all. You should, these places
should be transparent. If there’s something they’re
doing that’s abhorrent, or something they do, what you can see, the lives of these animals, and they’re treated in
these horrific ways. It’s not necessary. It’s just, they’re doing that for profit, and this is why you can get
a chicken sandwich for $1.99, or whatever the (beep) it is. – [Narrator] The podcast also recently had Wu Tang Clan front man RZA on as a guest, along with comedian and
radio host Donnell Rawlings. In response to a question from Rawlings about what makes a true vegan, both Rogan and RZA agreed that it’s a mix of health
reasons and animal welfare. But for the rapper, it leans
more toward the latter. – To be honest with you bro, I’ll just hit you with this right here. The reality of how I feel. No animal needs to die for me to live. – [Narrator] Going vegan hasn’t always been an easy journey for RZA, who said he loved poultry dishes like turkey and chicken wings. In 1996, he changed all of his
red meat dishes to poultry, but he soon realized that
wasn’t going to work either. – Like when I was younger, I could knock out about 30 chicken wings, you know what I mean? – I mean, anybody could do that, right?
– I know. Man, you can’t keep pointing
at me like that (laughs). – By the 29th chicken wing,
– Right (laughs). my teeth hit the bone, keeng,
(Donnell laughs) – And my mind said, – No more? – “Dead bird.” – [Narrator] Coming up,
the vegan meat market is projected to reach $140 billion. Popular Greek yogurt brand Chobani is launching a dairy-free oat milk, coffee creamers and oat yogurt. Founded in 2005, Chobani
is the top-selling Greek yogurt brand in America. It also operates the world’s
largest yogurt facility. But Chobani CEO Hamdi Ulukaya noticed oat milk’s popularity after purchasing a stake in the Philadelphia-based coffee chain La Colombe in 2015. It inspired the brand’s move into the oat milk market. Chobani will offer its new
oat milk in four flavors, plain, vanilla, chocolate
and plain extra creamy. Its oak yogurt will
launch in four flavors, vanilla, strawberry vanilla, blueberry pomegranate, and peach mandarin. Chobani President Peter
McGuinness told “Forbes,” “We think oat is the superior plant. “Oat uses very little water, “and it delivers more
nutrition than coconut cream, “almond milk, soy milk or cashew milk. “And it tastes better.” The vegan meat market could be worth $140 billion by 2029, according to a new report from British multinational
investment bank Barclays. It revealed that while meat
consumption is on the up, due to a growing global population, there is also a big market opportunity for plant-based meat brands. The vegan meat market
is worth $14 billion, but it could grow to $140 billion by 2029, accounting for 10% of
the global meat industry. According to the report,
due to rising demand and a growing population, global meat consumption is on the rise, especially in the U.S., which currently makes up about $270 billion of the $1.4 trillion global meat industry. We believe, therefore, that there is a bigger market opportunity
for plant-based, and maybe even lab-grown protein, that was projected for
electric vehicles 10 years ago. A new Sunday morning vegan cooking show, starrring BOSH! is coming to ITV. Henry Firth and Ian Theasby, cookbook authors and the
founders of recipe site BOSH!, will host “Living on the Veg,” a 10-part series set to air in early 2020. – As you know already, we set BOSH! up to take vegan mainstream, and this is another marker in time for us, and the vegan movement as a whole. – So if you like our recipes, if you like cooking BOSH! food, you’re gonna get all the
recipes that you love, but in this beautiful new format, with an incredible film crew, director, producer, everybody purely making BOSH! recipes look amazing. – [Narrator] “Living on
the Veg” aims to show how simple, varied and
delicious vegan cooking is. Every Sunday morning, new guests will join Firth and Theasby. They will create a range of dishes, including breakfasts, lunches, dinners, desserts and healthy snacks. Executive producer Michael Connock said, “With the subject of diet
taking such a prominent place “in the climate change debate, “it seems timely and relevant
to be producing a program “about plant-based food. “In fact, it’s small decisions “like choosing a fish-free
dinner over cod and chips “that are going to save our oceans.” At least, that’s what Chris Kerr thinks. He’s the chief investment
officer at New Crop Capital, and CEO of vegan seafood
brand Good Catch Foods. Kerr is on a mission to turn the seafood industry on its head. The fishing industry is responsible for significant damage to the oceans. Overfishing not only
impacts fish populations, but larger cetaceans
often end up as bycatch, or entangled in industrial fishing nets. Every year, around 300,000
whales and dolphins lose their lives due to entanglement. Opting for sustainable vegan fish could help to make a huge
difference for marine life. Kerr doesn’t believe in
arguing over moral purity. He’s more about working
effectively together toward a common goal. “Each of us can take small steps “toward a better world,” he told LIVEKINDLY. “When we take thousands or millions “of small steps together collectively, “we are taking a supremely giant leap “toward a better world, “and hopefully saving it.” The giant leap for Good Catch
Foods is saving the oceans from overfishing, and its creatures from entanglement and bycatch. But, small steps like
offering fish-free flaky tuna is what counts right now. But it’s not just about one brand. “There are many out there “trying to make a difference,” says Kerr. New Crop Capital has 35
companies in its portfolio. Each one is creating
direct vegan replacements for meat, dairy, eggs and seafood. City council members in New
York City and Los Angeles are calling for businesses
to cut ties with companies responsible for the
Amazon rainforest fires. Fires burning in the
Amazon have been linked to the beef industry. Cattle ranchers often set
fire to areas of the forest in order to clear land for their herds. There have been 41,000
recorded fire locations this year so far, according to the Brazilian
National Institute for Space Research. The fires are devastating
for indigenous people and wild animals, but they also have a wider impact. Amazonian trees absorb carbon dioxide, and are an extremely helpful resource in the fight against the climate crisis. When these trees are lost, it can be devastating in the
fight against climate change. NYC City Council members
Costa Constantinides and Justin Brannan are
co-sponsors of the new resolution. In partnership with vegan Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams. On the West Coast, L.A.
City Council members Paul Koretz and David Ryu have put forward a similar resolution. Adams said, “Today we
urge both city agencies “and local businesses to cut ties “with any company linked to
the multinational corporations “responsible for the fires still raging “throughout the Amazon rainforest. “Each individual consumer choice, “each corporate decision, “and each specific legislative policy “must be geared toward making our planet “more sustainable and habitable
for generations to come.” NYC and L.A. are the
two most populous cities in the United States. City council members from both hope that they can lead by example. They want to inspire the other
35,000 cities in the country to join them and introduce
similar resolutions. Lunchables creator Dr. Rody Hawkins is now the president and CEO of plant-based meat brand Improved Nature. The company recently launched
a vegan chicken range, which includes nuggets,
tenders and filets, at East Coast-based grocery
store chain ShopRite. Founded in 2015, Improved Nature aims to help the food system transition away from animal-based products, using sustainable plant-based protein. Hawkins believes the food
industry is changing. Vegan meat companies, like Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat, are soaring in popularity. Major fast food chains like McDonald’s, Burger King, and White Castle now offer realistic plant-based burgers. Hawkins thinks the same thing could happen with vegan chicken. “This is a really exciting time for us, “as well as the food industry overall. “Since the launch of several plant-based “beef alternative companies, “there has been a growing demand “for plant-based chicken alternatives.” American dancewear brand KD New York launched vegan cashmere. The vegetable cashmere is natural, cruelty-free, flexible, and sustainable. Made from a byproduct of tofu production, the vegan cashmere also
has antibacterial qualities and features superior
drape and breathability. The range features 13 pieces, including hoodies, camisoles, shawls, leggings and legwarmers. Traditional cashmere comes from the hair of a cashmere or Pashmina goat. According to KD New York, surging goat populations
from an unregulated market is causing erosion and desertification of the Mongolian grasslands. Around 90% of the world’s
cashmere is sourced from goats farmed in China and Mongolia. Major fashion retailers such as ASOS, H&M, and Le Chateau
have all banned cashmere for animal welfare reasons. An expose of cashmere production from international
animal rights group PETA revealed workers stepping
on frightened goats while ripping out their
hair with metal combs. KD New York co-founder David Lee told LIVEKINDLY that
vegetable cashmere production is a closed loop, and uses no additional
resources from the earth. “In all of our testing, it
has proven to be superior “to animal fiber cashmere,” Lee said. “It has greater tensile strength, “a lower pill factor, is moth-resistant “and machine washable.” That’s it for today. What do you think of Chobani
launching oat yogurt? Let us know in the comments below. Remember to subscribe and
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  1. Christi Nash

    "Amazon fires endanger wildlife and Indigenous people"

    Average American: hmmm…so have you tried that steak sandwich yet?

    "But we also need those trees for oxygen and to combat climate change"

    Average American: omgz no, why no one told us this when they did actually tell us this 40 years ago?


  2. L.W.O Lit Wise Owl

    Meat eaters are murderers behind a middle man whether they admit it or not. In my eyes there's no difference from eating animals to murdering other people or cannibalism. 🤔
    No one should have the right to kill or pay for a kill. I thought that would be obvious to any adult. 🤯

  3. Laura Macini

    If the cashmere alternative is a byproduct of the soya industry then why are they still charging £160 for a sweatshirt?? Making it more available might actually make a difference. Just a thought.

  4. Kel Lazell

    Theres nothing wrong with slaughter houses how else are we going to eat meat divvies, if they ban this we will have to kill our own animals to eat and I no if I had to kill me own it wouldn't be humane as I'd turn it into a game I only eat meat that's real none of this fake shit and i dont care how it killed as long as i can eat it

  5. wietske 20

    Hi im a vegetarian and im wanna be vegan but i live in the netherlands in a provence were not much peaple live and there are not much vegan oppions i do try to eat vegan

  6. katerina k

    I hope this vegan cooking show is uploaded on YouTube cause I'm from Europe Greece but I want t watch it… also these vegan adds are amazing they should be advertised in other countries as well

  7. Chade Fallstar

    We're omnivores, we developed and evolved overtime the ability to eat both plant matter and meat. We can't compare ourselves to carnivores in the animal kingdom as proof that we aren't supposed to eat meat, because they developed and evolved to handle catching and killing animals with their mouths and claws and eating raw meat. Whereas we learned to use tools to do the catching and killing and cooked our meat to make it taste better.

    The reason we evolved the way we did is largely down to our meat infused diet, without it we would not have developed the brain we have today. All that said, I do find myself increasingly distressed by the treatment of animals in the meat industry today, it's abhorrent and bereft of any kind of empathy for their suffering. I still eat meat though, I see it as an essential part of our diet, although I only eat meat a couple of times a week now and always try to purchase free range, grass fed etc etc, if only to sooth my conscience.

    I hope one day we can use science to come up with a complete replacement to actually having to kill and eat animals, we are getting closer to that day, but it's not here yet, regardless of what some would like us to believe. But if it does happen in my lifetime I will be one of the first to welcome it. I've also told my children the truth about meat, how we get it and why they should be greatful to the animal that gave it's life to feed them, so they are already on the path it took me years to start to follow.

  8. katrien opsomer

    the attention should be focused on ultra processed foods and fossil fuel as to environment. The rest is a fairy tail narrative. You just vilify animal farmers.Factory farms are not the only way of animal farming!

  9. Strawberrriess


  10. Alejandro marrero

    You people are naive. You think animals wont die by the millions for the millions of acress of land that is required to sustain a vegan population of 8billion, not counting the millions of insects that will have to die so the farming doesnt go to waste. Not only that, our bodies suck at gathering proteins from plants, we're not 100%hervibores. People are going to be hungry all the time. Theyre going to crave sugar because their bodies need the energy. That vegan turky is just chemicals upon chemicals ontop of each other with a bunch of sugar. That isnt healthy. Why do you need your food to taste like meat? Why add all those chemicals just to give it a meaty flavor? Wouldnt that make you crave real meat with real proteins and no synthezied bullshit in the long run?
    Not everyone can survive a vegan diet. And also, plants are consciouss beings. Just like animals, just like you and me. They feel on their own way and they can smell, hear, and sense danger. You guys are a lost cause. 100% vegan isnt healthy, just like 100% bad meat isnt healthy. Life is about balance. Every being has to suffer for the survival of another. Thats just the rule of life

  11. Adam A.

    If people want to eat meat, go hunting or fishing. Asian carp, Feral hogs and white tailed deer are literally destroying our ecosystem. Factory farming is trash, nobody should be eating that food. When you eat out, eat vegan, just eat the meat you hunt or fish at home.

  12. V-Form Official

    Joe… killing animals is unnecessary. Period.
    Quit the hunting bullshit argument to justify your softness and inconsequential immorality.

  13. Maegan&Tyler

    Awesome stuff! My boyfriend and I just started a YouTube channel where we doing vegan What I Eat In A Day, Muk Bangs, Cooking and Reviews! Check it out 💛🌞✨

  14. Vineet Basantani

    Leave meat today! Get help to transition from meat eating to vegetarianism in a healthy way.

  15. Kathy Fausett

    When did it become important to know what Rogan thinks? This guy is obviously an idiot, and it is strange to center attention on his opinion. He is not an informed person, and it's tiresome to constantly hear people refer to his narrative.

  16. InfusedSediment

    Back in 2010, I had a friend who had gone on a vegan diet because she no longer wanted to eat animals (usually referred to as an ethical vegan). This was my first exposure to a vegan diet.

  17. Daryl Elliott

    You stated that the Impossible Burger is vegan. 10:58 It isn't vegan; it's plant based. You have gotten this correct in the past. Please keep this distinction going forward. Thanks for considering.

  18. Roy Wessbecher

    Rogan, the meathead, took up hunting to stop supporting slaughterhouses?
    So he advocates all the billions of meat eaters go out and hunt?
    Simply don't be a meathead. No slaughterhouses, no hunting. Don't be stupid. Don't be harmful. Get healthy!

  19. Woxineau Crows

    Our problem in our small town is there isnt very much choice for vegan food and we have to drive over 100 miles to get it so me thinks the stores dont give a crap at all~

  20. Vegan Vocalist

    Yes I agree with him , it is WRONG how we treat animals and if there is nothing to hide then why is it not transparent how they are treated for our exploitation ?

  21. Awkward Vegan Siren Aryn

    Is McDonald's fries vegan someone said they have milk in their seasoning? I know they used to cook it and animals that I thought they stop that but I am not sure.

  22. JGK29

    When we all stop eating animal products, all the animals will have to die… So stop proselytising. You want to kill veg, good on ya….. I don’t want to hear you lot bleating on about this…..

  23. JGK29

    “No animals need to die for me to eat..” VIRTUE!! The fact would be all domesticated animals would have to disappear (Die) from the human food chain, and off the face of the planet. So his statement is in effect false…..

  24. Mark Anderson

    Its great to see the vegan movement and how so many alternatives are now available !! Lets put the dairy, meat, fur and fishing industries out of business !!!

  25. niceviewer

    RZA also said “ My son turned 14 this year, never had a piece of meat in his life. He can do eight pull ups right now. My oldest son hasn’t had meat in his life. He can bench press over 200 pounds, ok? Six foot two, eight pack. He can play guitar, piano, great memory” 💚

  26. Bloodthirsty Vegan

    Vegetarian at 12, vegan at 35. 61 now, and in perfect health. Good on me, but I don't give a shit about the choices others make. Too little, too late. This isn't a movie where the self destruct timer stops at 001.

  27. chris brownell

    Is the argument FOR veganism the fact that animals must die, or the conditions by which animals are farmed? I've watched a lot of the hoof doctor on YouTube and seen the treatments and conditioning in dairy farms. The cows seem quite oblivious and happily "endure" the milking process if you can assign a human emotion such as happiness to a bovine who lacks the sentience to experience it. I don't eat bonobo, dog or even pig myself within that reasoning, but I sure as heck won't stop eating dairy yoghurt in favour of oat. Does a vegan eat oysters? Where is the line drawn? You ever seen the overpopulated basket a farmed oyster endures? Someone send me a link to vegan philosophy and I promise I will visit and educate myself. Not being a smart#ss I really will

  28. Jesus Christ

    You should be asking me what we think about the soy made clothes. Soy should never be used for anything ever.

    Soy is a man made debacle. Don't touch it's karma with anything in your life what so ever.

  29. Kimberly H

    Joe Rogan is horrid! He appears to 'change' his viewpoints and play up to whatever guest he has on his show or just outright insults them. He wont change, he just had no option but to agree with the rational logic argument he was presented with as he usually surrounds himself with people that feed his narrow minded agenda.

  30. Cindy Shain

    Everything on the planet was put here for consumption
    Wild animals plants so on..
    Humans are hunters.
    Be vegan if you wish more power to you but downing meat eaters is flat out rude..
    If more people would buy local and not big bulk farms
    Everything would be much safer and much more humane
    You don’t think plants scream when you pluck them out of the earth? It’s a scientific fact

  31. Groce Family Farm

    You've clearly cherry picked Recent Rogan episodes. He spent three hours dismantling many of the claims in Game Changers. The quote you selected had nothing to do with veganism, but with a desire to avoid factory farmed meats.

  32. Sam Smith

    If you think cutting down acres of forest, grasslands and meadows to provide agricultural land for vegan friendly food and grains doesn't involve the mass slaughter of animals. Then you are mistaken.
    First of all there is the mass destruction of habitats above and below ground. Then there are the small amphibians, mammals, insects and even birds that somehow managed to survive the destruction of their habitat that just get chewed up by combine harvesters. Then there are the insects and what not that get splattered on the fronts of vehicles transporting your food half way around the world to get it to your local whole foods branch. Enjoy those diesel exhaust fumes pumping out the back of the wagons while you're at it. Then there are the insecticides, which are terrible for the biodiversity that supports the environment, even if you buy organic, that's become almost a meaningless term, besides plants both through natural section and selective breeding are also bread to be naturally toxic to the insects and creatures that devour them in order to yield more crop. In addition If we liberate livestock, apart from a few breeds of goat and sheep that can survive in the wild, these species will just die off.

    If you want sustainable, eco friendly food, you should hunt and forage like our native ancestors. Otherwise you're standing there just spouting hypocrisy from an imaginary high ground. I know some vegans that won't even eat honey because they think its cruel to use bees as a labour source, all the while they guzzle their almond milk, and other vegan products, which were entirely pollinated by bees owned by beekeepers.

    It's all well and good in highly developed countries with our supplement industries, and fertile land to produce a vegan diet and minimise the nutrient deficiencies associated with a typical vegan diet by consuming a wide range and variety of produce in order to obtain essential micronutrients, vitamins and minerals. Good luck supplying people around the world with the nutrients they need in arid conditions, and developing nations if you take away their goats milk etc. Particularly if you want those vegan friendly foods to be organic. Good luck when the locusts come and bring forth mass starvation.

    I understand the vegan rationale, I really do, it comes from a good place. Humans have developed a strong sense of empathy, many of us react viscerally to examples of any animal suffering we may be exposed to, particularly our more closely related mammals.

    Have we yet checked how sustainable this all is for the microbiome of the environment. Are there anymore unforseen consequences, particularly to the environment of everyone going vegan. The answer is almost certainly yes, because there's always consequence to all human actions.

    I don't personally hunt, I'm not opposed to it, I just don't have the time or perhaps confidence to make a clean kill of something like an elk. Fortunately I get all my meat from a butcher that sources the meat locally, both wild game as well as local small farms that I know care about the welfare of their stock. I waste none, and it's not something I have every meal. But it's something I'll eat almost every day, typically at least with one meal. All the evidence suggests a balanced diet is the most healthy.
    I'm sure many of these points came up in the Rogan podcast, or have been addressed elsewhere. But I don't think vegans have any justification to look down their noses at people that used animal based products.

  33. LosAngelesWeedSmoker

    Dead dolphins, horrible. The pain and misery we create is horrendous. Definitely cutting back and trying Vegan meals. Sorry mammals. 😫

  34. Tim Moraru

    Biblical Prophecy tells us we will all be plant based, as God restores all creation. Relations between humans and animals will be fully healed, and none shall harm or destroy (Isaiah 11:6-10)

  35. Triscia Francescka Jardine

    I am a longterm vegan – 20 years – and longterm vegan activist online – leaving a two-slaughterhouse town in New Zealand next Tuesday – its polluted and the people are drugged up and crazy – hunters and slaughterhouse workers beat their wives!

  36. michael onello

    You guys do such a great job with the content and production as well as the actual reporting/delivering.Thank you!

    Vegan foods on Instagram == mikewakethefoodup


    LOL u think that guy who goes out hunting for meat, has commercial freezers full of the meat he's gone out and killed u think that guy is gonna go vegan you obviously have never watched more than 5/min of him yes he's against slaughterhouses and jam packed chicken farms but don't be deceptive and say some shit you have not the slightest idea about

  38. jangyman

    Jeez …it's about time …I think his hunting hobby is catching up with him. We don't need meat, and we know it …so every animal we eat is an unnecessary humanitarian tragedy. To not believe this in this age is denial.

  39. Eldin Hasa

    🙏🌱 3 Years Vegan, for my health, for the animals and for the environment. Thank you for this video. I been a vegan for 3 years now and never felt better in my life, I have more energy, feel and look better, my hair is thicker, my skin is better, I feel stronger athletically, I recover faster, don't have any muscular pain after training. I have achieved some of my best PB lifts in deadlift and squat. I train 6 days a week and actually trained many weeks every day, m without the day off, because I've had so much energy. Since I became vegan, I never had a flue or cold in 3 years. I used to eat meat and animal products for 37 years and before I decided to become vegan I educated myself and studied the evidence objectively for 4 weeks, about 200 combined hours before I decided that to become vegan was the only option for my heath, for the animals and for the environment. ❤️ 💪 If you stop focusing your attention on what is wrong with the world, and with the people around you, and divert your entire focus on working on improving yourself inwardly for 90 days, one year, two years, or however long it takes, you will improve your life exponentially and as a result change the world. 💪💪

  40. Eldin Hasa

    NO ANIMAL NEEDS TO DIE FOR HUMANS TO LIVE ❤️🌱🌱🌱 I can feel that in 2020 Something big is coming – In the shape of selflessness, unity, solidarity and LOVE ❤️. I believe the best part of humanity and who we indeed are is unconditional love, selflessness, patience, compassion, and kindness.
    The part of humanity that wants to protect the innocent (innocent humans and animals) and defend the vulnerable, that's the best of humanity.
    Every human being and animal alike, wants to avoid pain and suffering, to feel loved, to feel truly happy and fulfilled.
    🙏🙏🙏 🌱🌱🌱

  41. Wonder Mama

    This year it was my vegan sister's turn to host Thanksgiving. She served a lentil loaf. We were polite and ate it while we listened to her "lecture" us on how much better it was for us and the animals. Other than that it was kind of quiet around the dinner table. We knew that she had anxiously waited five years for her turn to host and didn't want to ruin it for her. She was happy and that's all that mattered.

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